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Post by Lilien on Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:54 pm

Alt-Folk Singer Michelle Shocked Goes On Homophobic Rant, Tells Audience “God Hates Fags”



Michelle Shocked, an alt-folk singer who had success in the 1980s and ’90s, shocked audience members at Yoshi’s in San Francisco Sunday night with a homophobic rant that wound up clearing out the club.
The crowd had come, presumably, to hear songs like “Come a Long Way” and “On the Greener Side,” which got airplay on MTV back in the day. (“Greener Side” was even up for a VMA against Madonna’s “Vogue.”)
Instead they were treated to a tirade that allegedly included Shocked announcing “God hates fags.”
Matt Penfield, who was live-tweeting the show from onstage called her rant, delivered during her second set, “totally sincere [and] super anti-gay and hateful.”
We’re still trying to get the full text of her speech, but apparently she told fans “you can go on twitter and say Michelle Shocked said ‘God hates fags.’” ...

http://www.queerty.com/alt-folk-singer-michelle-shocked-goes-on-homophobic-rant-tells-audience-god-hates-fags-20130318/





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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:00 pm

I read about this yesterday. Holy back-in-the-closet, paranoid, in denial FREAK! Too bad she can't accept herself. :affraid:
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Post by ElaineB on Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:29 pm

All her concerts were canceled. So surprise, surprise...

Michelle Shocked Apologizes: Singer Says Anti-Gay Remarks Were 'Misinterpreted'
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Post by Deej on Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:35 pm

Im sorry, but if you say God hates homosexuels, how are you not a homophobe? :face:

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Post by Lilien on Wed Mar 20, 2013 7:21 pm

Ohh right, next you know she will organizing concerts with parole: Let's support gay marriages.

Ohh cut the crap Lady, you are one big donkey bum. Money will make a hole where not even a drill can.

And why is she apologizing anyway? Cause she said whats she said and now she is loosing money? Or cause she feels this way about gays?
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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:45 pm

Why do people get so freakin' judgmental? Am I being judgmental calling Michelle Shocked judgmental? I guess I am. :P
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Post by ElaineB on Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:19 pm

BGG, I did wonder about that listening to the audio, which you can listen to here.

It kind of amazed me that people stuck it out till the end and even applauded her singing, but you could argue she has the right to say it. But man, if I'd paid money to listen to a singer and got that? I'm surprised no one threw a chair at her. She sounds kind of crazy and pathetic at the end. I only knew her name, not her music, but my wife was somewhat more familiar with her.
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Post by Lilien on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:39 am



Quebec launches anti-homophobia campaign





The Quebec government has launched a unique advertising campaign designed to get the province thinking about just how open-minded it really is when it comes to homosexuality.

The TV, radio and web campaign shows routine, everyday scenes in which the viewer has no idea until the end that the ad is about sexual orientation.

One shows a man texting his lover while awaiting him at the airport.

Then a man and woman exit simultaneously past the arrivals door. In the end, the woman brushes past and the two men join in a deep kiss.

Another ad shows a woman returning home to find a note from her partner. She is caught off-guard by a surprise party with a group of friends where she and her partner — a woman — share a passionate embrace.

In both cases, at the end, a narrator asks the viewer: "Does this change what you were thinking 20 seconds ago?"

Here is the article: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/03/09/quebec-anti-homophobia.html

And here you can hear a 15min radio interview that Susan Campbell did about the commercial campaign.

http://www.cbc.ca/player/Radio/Local+Shows/Quebec/ID/2341156185/?sort=MostPopular
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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:51 am

Lilien - Fantastic! Thanks for sharing this.
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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:02 am

Lilien, your post reminds me of a poster I've seen about keeping schools safe. The picture was of three girls in a school setting, and the caption was something like: "She's gay, and we're okay with that." I believe there was also one with three boys.

If anybody can find those images, can you please post it? Thanks.
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Post by Lilien on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:13 am

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Post by Deej on Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:23 am

Excellent. I recently viewed am Amazon video for their Kindle. A hot looking woman is at the beach reading on one, a nice looking man asks her about it and she explains how easy it is to read on, even in sunlight. He has an IPAD, then he says, "done." He goes on to explain that he's just ordered his own Kindle. He suggests they celebrate with a drink?

Next image the woman turns to him and says, "thanks my husband is at the bar right now getting me one." The guy replies, "Nice, so is mind."

The next image is two men at the bar smiling and waving to the man and woman. It's very subtle, but powerful at the same time. Almost made me like Amazon. Very Happy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/21/amazon-kindle-gay-marriage-commercial-_n_2732827.html

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Re: Homophobia

Post by ElaineB on Fri Mar 22, 2013 6:15 pm

"It's so gay"--not! Here's the comeback.

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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:24 pm

Lilien - Yes! Those are the posters! Thanks for finding them! Very cool! Very Happy
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Re: Homophobia

Post by PaulaO on Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:50 pm

And the posters make you realize, you don't know which one that is gay and you can't tell them apart. Excellent!
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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:43 am

Tolerance - To put up with. The capacity to endure continued subjection to something.

Acceptance - To regard as proper, normal, or inevitable. To recognize to be true.
(From the Ash Beckham video posted by ElaineB above)

I've never liked the word tolerance. I TOLERATE the broccoli on my plate when wifey insists - but I don't like it. I TOLERATE the humid Florida summer - but I don't like it. I will NOT ACCEPT broccoli as a good-tasting food. I will NOT ACCEPT a humid Florida summer as comfortable.

So when straights say, "C'mon everybody, be good sports and TOLERATE the gays." HarumpH! How about ACCEPT the gays. Or, even better yet, how about we make it pretty much a non-issue. Not sure how to do that.

Love Ash Beckham. She just says it like it is, eh? You go, woman!
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Post by Deej on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:40 am

Excellent points, both BGG and Ash Beckham, thanks ladies.

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Post by Lilien on Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:40 pm

BassGuitarGirl wrote:I TOLERATE the broccoli on my plate when wifey insists - but I don't like it. I TOLERATE the humid Florida summer - but I don't like it. I will NOT ACCEPT broccoli as a good-tasting food. I will NOT ACCEPT a humid Florida summer as comfortable.

That is a freaking good point. And you are right, I do wish more than just tolerance, I need acceptance.

BassGuitarGirl wrote:I TOLERATE the broccoli on my plate when wifey insists - but I don't like it.

Story of my life!
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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:36 pm

ElaineB wrote:"It's so gay"--not! Here's the comeback.
I just watched the video again. Awesome! Again -- thanks for sharing it.
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Post by Athena on Fri Mar 29, 2013 4:28 pm

That was a really cool video, Elaine. And so true, how come that some people feel more comfortable seeing two men with guns rather than two than two men holding hands.
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Post by Lilien on Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:09 pm

I accidentally stumbled upon this story, it's one months old, but it is really horrifying :

TX lesbian beaten unconscious on playground in front of children

Twenty-seven-year-old Sondra Scarber now has her jaw wired shut. Her face is badly bruised and swollen. She can barely speak, and she must take medicine through a straw squeezed between her teeth. In her own words:

It’s hard for me to stay strong when I see myself in the mirror. I can’t do anything for myself.

Scarber is going through all of this because she was brutally attacked on an elementary school playground while she was with her girlfriend Hillary Causey and Causey's son, four-year-old Jaxon. Why? Because she's a lesbian.

This nightmare began when Scarber and Causey took Jaxon to the Seabourn Elementary School playground in Mesquite, Texas, on February 17 so Jaxon could play. Things quickly got out of hand, however, when a group of older children began bullying the younger Jaxon. Scarber and Causey walked over to the group and told them that Jaxon is only four years old and that they need to keep their hands off of him. That's when a father walked over to the group, apparently thinking Scarber--who dresses in baggy pants and has short hair--was a man. When he realized he was dealing with a woman whom he assumed (correctly) to be a lesbian, things quickly escalated.

Causey recalls:

When he walked up thinking it was father and mom with the kid, he wasn’t as angry, but then when he figured out it was a female, he got like super pissed, and I don’t know why.

The man punched Scarber and knocked her to the ground, where he continued to punch and kick her while yelling homophobic slurs, all in front of the children. Causey remembers the attack:

He was like, "Well if you think you’re a man...I’m going to treat you like a man." All she kept saying was, "I’m a female. I’m a female..." She never even had time to take her hands out of pockets to try and block herself.

The man got away in time to not be arrested. And according to Scarber and Causey, Mesquite police don't seem to be in any big rush to catch him or treat the incident as a hate crime. The WFAA article claims that the police are not pursuing it as a hate crime because sexual orientation was not the "original trigger." So it's not a hate crime if somebody kicks and punches a lesbian while yelling homophobic slurs if he was already a little pissed off before he realized she was a lesbian. Okay, Mesquite police. Gotcha.

Gays and lesbians are protected under both federal and Texas state hate crimes law, by the way.

Lt. Bill Hedgpeth of the Mesquite Police Department has the following to say:

At this point, we have no indication the assault occurred because of her sexual orientation. Regardless of motive, we want to catch them.

But, according to the WFAA article:

Officers insist they are looking for a black man, about 5’7", who weighs 185 pounds. He was wearing a royal blue T-shirt and jeans, and was driving an early 2000's silver Chevrolet Impala with temporary tags. Police say he was with a black woman, about 5’5”, 140 pounds, wearing a white T-shirt and jeans.

In the meantime, young Jaxon is having trouble sleeping and does not want to return to the playground.

Here's hoping the homophobic asshole is caught and brought to justice.

I got this story from here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/03/01/1190885/-TX-lesbian-beaten-unconscious-on-playground-in-front-of-children

But you can also see a short video and article here:

Woman claims she suffered hate crime while defending bullied boy
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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:02 pm

Disgusting. Bullies come in all ages and sizes, don't they? 😕
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Re: Homophobia

Post by Daydreamer on Fri May 31, 2013 3:26 am

I recently watched the documentary; "For the Bible tells Me So." It's mostly geared towards gays who believe in God and deal with the complex issues of faith meets orientation. For those who haven't seen the 90 minute documentary it's very good. It follows the lives of several families who were/are Christians, and how the discovery of having a homosexual child/sibling has affected them.

I sorta categorize homophobia a bit, as well as tolerance vs. acceptance. I won't get into the long of it here and now, but I think I'm ok with certain groups just tolerating us, but others I want and expect more from. For instance, the 80 year old woman/man who is experiencing constant culture shock. Rome was not built in a day, and sometimes a generation from a bygone era and bygone thought processes are slower to adjust to the level of change happening around them. Take anti-war sentiment in the 60's. The very thought of war protests by the baby-boomers disgusted the "greatest generation" who felt patriotism trumped all else, including common sense. It's simply the way they were raised. Another one is the person who sincerely believes that it's a sinful act. No those who pretend to have faith in a God they know nothing about, but devout ppl who seek God and are otherwise good decent ppl that you'd leave your kids with. These are those who use the oft phrase, "hate the sin, love the sinner." You can probably find fault with me on this one, but I most often think these people are just sincerely wrong, but not malevolent or wishing ill will upon gays. Interestingly, these are the ones who I find are more accepting of me, even though they disagree with my orientation, than many gays have been towards them.

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Post by Deej on Fri May 31, 2013 7:30 am

I know what you're saying DD. Recently my wife and I were away, an older gentleman and his wife stopped me to talk, then he wanted to know why he hadn't seen my husband? I calmly explained because I'm with a woman, the man turned beet red, but his wife smiled warmly and said "and that's fine."

He wasn't being rude, or arrogant, he's simply from a generation that doesn't find it to be the norm. He's remained friendly and nice so I felt no compulsion to attack him for his beliefs. OK

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Post by Lilien on Fri May 31, 2013 8:10 am

Ohh, I do agree on you in some stuff. I definitely do not blame people for not understanding. There is a lot of people, both young and old, who were raised and thought to believe in certain things and raised to live a certain life. When a person is surrounded with people who have a way of handling things and a way of living, you most likely will end up similar or same as them. If your parents tell you something is wrong or right when you are little, you most likely will believe them, cause they are the people you believe and trust the most in that point of your life, which is the crucial moment.

Older generation had less publicity to deal with, less TV, less books, less everything. They didn't had time to get used to. Some of them didn't even had time to explore/understand/accept their own feelings. Today, you can see gay people everywhere, on TV, on street, on commercials. Truth, it's either in good way or bad way, but you see them. You can get used to having them around. Also they are more exposed to hatred, but there is a lot more support than it was back 60 years ago.

When it comes to Christianity, there is a lot of gay people who attend church, believe in God. There are even gay churches in some places. Fate has nothing to do with homosexuality. Not all gay people are atheists.

I don't have problems with people trying to understand, trying to show how God said do not lay with the same kind and stuff. I do not even have problems with questions how does relationship between two women works, when there is no man involved. What I do have problem is aggressive behavior, beatings, bullying. That is something I do blame people. You maybe can teach your kid to think how women and men are only ''normal'' combination for marriage, but if you teach your kid to go into length of beating people cause they are different. How many stories we heard where lesbians were beating up with poor excuse as: You wanna be a man, than fight like man, Or gay guys molested and even raped with objects just so they belittle them? These people are far from Christians and they stand behind their fate.

As for gay people, not all of them are good. They are only people, not different than any other human out there. If someone is gay that is certainly not a sign that I will like then, or that I will have any kind of good relationship with them. Being gay only makes you wanna be with the same gender but certainly doesn't make you immune to being asshole.
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