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Post by ElaineB on Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:31 pm

Here's where we get to moan and groan about this horrible, and I do mean horrible, pastime we've decided, for some truly insane reason, to undertake--writing fiction. Yee gods, what was I thinking?

How many times a day do I want to chuck it all in the trash bin, delete my Facebook account, and just pretend I never existed? Three. Really.

Anyone else?
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Post by Deej on Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:01 pm

Every time I read another author's book and realize how much more talented they are than I am.

It's a process, and we have to remember the moment and feeling of the first time we actually manage to sell a story? I still remember the day Carrie, at Bedazzled Ink emailed to say they wanted to buy "Who's In Charge."

I emailed back and asked if she was sure???

I have to say it doesn't get old either. I accept I have much to learn, but I'm willing to try to learn it.

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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:50 pm

Deej wrote: Every time I read another author's book and realize how much more talented they are than I am.
Exactly! Ya just start feeling good about your writing and then, poof, you realize you know nothing. The good thing is that writers like Stephen King say they go through the same kind of thing ALL THE TIME! But Stephen King is good...
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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:54 pm

Deej wrote:...we have to remember the moment and feeling of the first time we actually manage to sell a story... ?
Exactly! I remember the email I got from Regal Crest saying they wanted to publish my novel. I kept trying to make the subject line read something like "We're sorry..." or "We regret to inform you...". BUT IT DIDN'T! It said they wanted to publish my novel! Yee Haw!
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Post by ElaineB on Wed Mar 20, 2013 1:34 pm

Lisa Amatangel, who has climbed the "Seven Summits" (the highest peak on each continent) says it well:
“There will be a million reasons to turn around. The challenge is to figure out, How can I keep going despite all of the doubts, discomforts and frustrations?”

Just replace "turn around" with "stop writing."

A novel is just Everest with more oxygen and less frostbite.
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Post by Deej on Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:52 pm

Thank god for less frostbite, my arthritic fingers have enough problems typing as it is. ;)

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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:53 pm

Do you guys touchtype? Or are you the hunt-and-peck type?

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Post by ElaineB on Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:15 pm

I went to secretarial school one summer (because, you know, a BS degree is just bullshit) so I touch type. I've lost my steno skills however.
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Post by Deej on Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:28 am

Touch type here, and it's amazing that I can. I failed the class twice. Very Happy

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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:57 am

Touch typing makes it sooooooo much easier to write, doesn't it? I have colleagues that still refuse to take the time to learn. There are so many good computer programs out there.

I love the fact that in Microsoft Word my computer "knows" the typical mistakes I make and autocorrects them for me. That's nice and helps the writing go faster.
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Post by Deej on Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:30 am

Lee, (wife) just bought me "Dragon" the talk to type program. I haven't had time to install it and learn it yet, but I'm hoping it will speed things up. :lol:

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Post by Lilien on Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:29 pm

I used 'Dragon Naturally Speaking' in my newspapers office, it can be useful program, but you first have to spend time and time for the program to LEARN your voice and pronunciation of the words. In the beginning I was thinking what a cool idea it is, but after Dragon misspelled 55% of the words I said, it made me just too damn frustrated.

Just make sure to train the program to your voice, I know that it could feel a bit idiotic reading out loud all those articles in the microphone for the program to get to know your voice, but trust me in the long haul it will be useful as hell. If you need any help, or you have questions, feel free to ask. I stopped using the Dragon, but I still know a lot about the program.
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Post by BassGuitarGirl on Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:20 am

Deej - once you get the Dragon program up and running, let us know how it goes. That would be such a cool alternative to the typing. Sometimes typing makes the not-quite-healed broken thumb ache (softball injury...what else?).

Sometimes if I'm on a long road trip, I'll dictate a chapter into my phone's voice recorder. I've "written" entire chapters that way and felt like my time in the car wasn't wasted.
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Post by PaulaO on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:14 pm

I tried Dragon several times. If you write the same way you talk aloud, then it will work. But if you type faster than your mouth can work, it will be frustrating. Weird accents will take it forfreakinever to learn. I found that to be a time sink. I spent more time correcting it than getting anything done. And editing with it is difficult.

But that's me. You may like it. There's a "famous" writer who does all her books that way but I'm not a fan of her books so....

And I touch type. Learned it in high school. They call it "keyboard class" now. I still often bang the keys too hard, just as if it were a manual typewriter.

Which reminds me, John...crap, John something, big famous writer guy, main stream. Anyway, he was on Wait Wait Don't Tell Me and said he hand writes all his novels. He used to use a manual typewriter but his office began to look more like a repair shop because of all the parts he had to keep around to keep it working. So now he writes by hand and someone types it in for him.
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Post by Deej on Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:24 pm

Hope crap, I'd never get anything written, if I had to write long hand. :face:

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Post by ElaineB on Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:14 am

I've done both, long hand and typing. With long hand, you think you are writing a lot, but when you type it up, it's almost nothing. Kind of frustrating. But there's a different thought process involved. You have to slow your brain down and think before you write the words so I found I edited more in my head. But now with an arthritic thumb, writing is painful. But I long to pick up the pen occasionally

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